tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post6232335621093896804..comments2023-10-24T08:25:49.233-07:00Comments on Ojai Valley News Blog: CMWD Board Closes Lake To Outside BoatsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-76824096296926446172008-03-13T13:14:00.000-07:002008-03-13T13:14:00.000-07:00when your RATES GO UP do the loss of boating reven...<I>when your RATES GO UP do the loss of boating revenue do not come crying on here about it.</I><BR/><BR/>OK. <BR/><BR/>Next order, General Dsfancy. sir?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-88144539845386717592008-03-13T06:37:00.000-07:002008-03-13T06:37:00.000-07:00when your RATES GO UP do the loss of boating reve...when your RATES GO UP do the loss of boating revenue do not come crying on here about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-30761549941475121572008-03-12T22:56:00.000-07:002008-03-12T22:56:00.000-07:00Hey...this is our DRINKING WATER. Thanks to Russ,...Hey...this is our DRINKING WATER. Thanks to Russ, Rich & Pete for their careful stewardship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-62374551388075231422008-03-10T21:29:00.000-07:002008-03-10T21:29:00.000-07:00....Once again, the elusive James Hatch....Not elu...<I>....Once again, the elusive James Hatch....</I><BR/><BR/>Not elusive enough for his own good, unfortunately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-74062198308380532222008-03-10T20:30:00.000-07:002008-03-10T20:30:00.000-07:00Once again, the elusive James Hatch opens his mout...Once again, the elusive James Hatch opens his mouth and shows his ignorance. What an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-11030822990769765962008-03-10T16:49:00.000-07:002008-03-10T16:49:00.000-07:00How could such a small organism cause such a big p...<I>How could such a small organism cause such a big problem?</I><BR/><BR/>You mean a small organism like the AIDS virus and hantavirus, or the small organisms that cause diseases like genital herpes, hepatitis C, cholera, Ebola, drug-resistant tuberculosis and syphillis, anthrax, rabies, etc, etc?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-78429333677874568552008-03-10T16:12:00.000-07:002008-03-10T16:12:00.000-07:00How could such a small organism cause such a big p...How could such a small organism cause such a big problem? It sounds to me like science is once again getting in the way of common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-6659308693911307152008-03-09T21:22:00.000-07:002008-03-09T21:22:00.000-07:00Don't rock dsfancy's little boat. He likes to beli...Don't rock dsfancy's little boat. He likes to believe what he likes to believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-70499863523963895862008-03-09T15:16:00.000-07:002008-03-09T15:16:00.000-07:00What lake are YOU talking about being dead this we...What lake are YOU talking about being dead this weekend???? I was there today, Sunday, and there were quite a few boats out, including kayaks, lots of people fishing from the banks, tons of campers and the cafe was just as busy as it usually is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-45806470107975612682008-03-09T14:29:00.000-07:002008-03-09T14:29:00.000-07:00The lake is going to have a meeting on wed the 12t...The lake is going to have a meeting on wed the 12th not sure what time. To talk about getting some storage space opened up. The lake was dead this weekend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-75142563627816661522008-03-08T08:35:00.000-08:002008-03-08T08:35:00.000-08:00The long-term upside to this is that this heavily ...The long-term upside to this is that this heavily fished lake is going to have a few months to recover, and maybe one of these whiney fishermen will actually catch the new world record large mouth that everyone seems to think could be in that lake right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-70759585837849816762008-03-07T17:30:00.000-08:002008-03-07T17:30:00.000-08:00All a serious fisherman would have to do would be ...All a serious fisherman would have to do would be to have two boats. One to store at LC, and another to travel to other lakes. Not too much of a stretch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-7697080542287084782008-03-07T08:56:00.000-08:002008-03-07T08:56:00.000-08:00You're right. They're not letting outside boats in...You're right. They're not letting outside boats in. <BR/><BR/>The Quagga mussel causes a far worse water condition than anything Lake Casitas has ever faced. It kills everything in the water except for algae, and it makes the algae bloom like crazy. The Quagga mussel will kill all of the bass; all of the trout; all of the carp; all of the minnows; all of the frogs, and anything else that's part of the food chain in the lake. It also clogs up the pipes. It's so much worse than filthy rental boats that those boats aren't ever worth worrying about. The water filtration plant can take care of just about any kind of filth already found in the lake, but it can't deal with Quagga mussels because the Quagga mussels clog up the system. <BR/><BR/>People who store their boats at the lake might be privileged when it comes to fishing at the lake, but if they take their boats off of the property they won't be allowed to bring them back and put them in the water. In that respect they're not so privileged; they're stuck at the lake for a year unless they're willing to go and not come back.<BR/><BR/>As far as the fairness of all this: Life isn't always fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-88621461230262153802008-03-07T06:19:00.000-08:002008-03-07T06:19:00.000-08:00If you call lake casitas you will be told that the...If you call lake casitas you will be told that they are not allowing any boats in. There is not a waiting list. They are not allowing boats in Period. Call Ask 805-649-2233 ext# 7 Then tell me to reread the article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-24623014956398049132008-03-06T21:54:00.000-08:002008-03-06T21:54:00.000-08:00Unless you're being intentionally obtuse, which is...Unless you're being intentionally obtuse, which is always a possibility, you need to read the article again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-87764413489860478282008-03-06T21:13:00.000-08:002008-03-06T21:13:00.000-08:00I guess I didn't say it right. They shut down the ...I guess I didn't say it right. They shut down the lake do to fears of contamination of the drinking water. The rental boats at the lake are the most filthy boats around. And by allowing only people who already had boats stored there kinds of makes it a private club.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-68814335682364691102008-03-06T16:53:00.000-08:002008-03-06T16:53:00.000-08:00So, if your boat sank would you advocate sinking e...So, if your boat sank would you advocate sinking everyone else's boat, too, just to make things fair?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-71134375843215254912008-03-06T15:34:00.000-08:002008-03-06T15:34:00.000-08:00It is bulls---t that they are only allowing the bo...It is bulls---t that they are only allowing the boats that are already at the lake. They need to close the lake to all boaters. As it is discrimination to only allow the few select who were there. They lied about being able to store your boat there. If they are approaching this as quality drinking water than the lake should have never allowed boating to begin with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-24714670638551540732008-03-05T13:35:00.000-08:002008-03-05T13:35:00.000-08:00Tom Hutchison is not the first person to have ment...Tom Hutchison is not the first person to have mentioned the possibility of intentional contamination of the lake; this kind of talk has been going on since the first mention of possible closure. Apparently, some people seem to think that this threat is their bargaining chip, or the ace up their collective sleeve. Unfortunately for them, this isn't a game of poker. <BR/><BR/>This - the threat of intentional contamination - is an idea that the fishermen ought to quit bandying about. It makes them look like wild-eyed radicals and vigilantes, and it puts them on a par with the kind of morons who burn down houses & car dealerships in the name of environmentalism.<BR/><BR/>As mentioned previously, it might make them feel less powerless to talk this way, but the net effect of such statements could be to cause the Federal government, the State, the County, and the Casitas board to agree that the only way to protect this public water supply would be to close the entire property to all public uses. The folks in charge are going to make their point, and that point is this: it's their job to protect the water supply, whatever it takes.<BR/><BR/>As far as all fishermen going out of their way to adhere to the rules without fail, would this include the fishermen who swim in the lake even though they know they're not supposed to be doing that? It appears that there are more than a few people who just choose to ignore rules that they don't like if those rules inconvenience them, and anyone who spends any time at or on the lake has probably seen them doing exactly that, and doing that <I>for years</I>. It's not just fishermen who do it, to be sure, but it's just as much of a sure thing that they <I>are</I> doing it along with the rest of the scofflaws. <BR/><BR/>The Board is well aware of the rule-breakers, too, and I'm sure that this has more than a little to do with why they feel they can't allow the security of the water supply to rest entirely upon the honor system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-1843783048295385152008-03-05T12:53:00.000-08:002008-03-05T12:53:00.000-08:00Tom Hutchinson was not making a threat, only expre...Tom Hutchinson was not making a threat, only expressing a legitimate concern. Unfortunately, his entire statement is not included in the article. All he was saying is that there are people who could take matters into there own hands and deliberately infect Lake Casitas with the Quagga and asked if the Board was taking the necessary measures to prevent that from happening. Tom was very sincere with that concern.Rick Rainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02523563808061067379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-20385876601606362982008-03-05T11:19:00.000-08:002008-03-05T11:19:00.000-08:00And another fisherman warned that closing the lake...<I>And another fisherman warned that closing the lake to outside boats might boomerang.<BR/>"If you close the lake, what's going to keep a disgruntled fisherman from infesting (it), so it doesn't have to be closed," said bass fisherman Tom Hutchinson.</I><BR/><BR/>Advocating, even in an offhanded way, the contamination of a federal water supply (or any public water supply, for that matter) amounts to making a <B>terrorist threat</B>. A person making such a threat could wind up on a list of "Persons of Interest" down at the Department of Homeland Security or at the FBI. It's not much different than making a threat against an elected or appointed official. Such a person might also wind up on a "No Fly" list, and they could wind up having their activities and communications monitored.<BR/><BR/>It might feel as if one is fighting back at some perceived injustice by making such threatening statements, but the long-term effects on a person's life and freedom freedom might not be worth the 30 or so seconds of feeling powerful one obtained from threatening to destroy or endanger a public water supply.<BR/><BR/>If everyone actually cares about this lake, they need to prove it, even if proving it involves making some sacrifices. <I>Everyone</I> needs to do whatever it takes to keep it safe. Otherwise, the Federal Bureau of Reclamation just might decide to step in and close the lake to all entry, including all walk-in and drive-in uses, and Lake Casitas will just become a big off-limits reservoir. In that case, the local board would have to raise the water rates to make up for the loss of recreational revenues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com