tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post8814456319743407600..comments2023-10-24T08:25:49.233-07:00Comments on Ojai Valley News Blog: Hanstad, Horgan May Run For Re-electionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-83157776049397020802008-07-16T15:38:00.000-07:002008-07-16T15:38:00.000-07:00This kind of backbiting is what is killing Ojai. V...<I>This kind of backbiting is what is killing Ojai. Vision for Ojai? Yeah right...put all of your eggs in the mortgage basket and now people are interested in appealing to locals? Nobody cares what the people of Ojai want, that is very clear.</I><BR/><BR/>What on God's green Earth does this mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-14219511351287807572008-07-16T10:19:00.000-07:002008-07-16T10:19:00.000-07:00This kind of backbiting is what is killing Ojai. V...This kind of backbiting is what is killing Ojai. Vision for Ojai? Yeah right...put all of your eggs in the mortgage basket and now people are interested in appealing to locals? Nobody cares what the people of Ojai want, that is very clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-79788697963069812282008-07-15T22:41:00.000-07:002008-07-15T22:41:00.000-07:00I don't think that Pete could be any more transpar...I don't think that Pete could be any more transparent than he is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-77121968517882821442008-07-15T21:16:00.000-07:002008-07-15T21:16:00.000-07:00Why is it, I wonder, that those who insist on tran...Why is it, I wonder, that those who insist on transparency in government, elected officials and business are unwilling to provide it about themselves?<BR/><BR/>B DawsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-45645552722845670312008-07-15T15:01:00.000-07:002008-07-15T15:01:00.000-07:00I wish I was as clever as 7/15/08 11:35 am! Ha! ...I wish I was as clever as 7/15/08 11:35 am! Ha! That is the funniest thing I have seen in a really long time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-82298125540940130352008-07-15T12:34:00.000-07:002008-07-15T12:34:00.000-07:00Truth is I was not the lame two past posts by brav...Truth is I was not the lame two past posts by brave anonymous.<BR/>Question before that- I keep a<BR/>mailing address in Ojai but pursue<BR/>a life and calling outside murky<BR/>Ojai politics. Sorry to not<BR/>give you more to retaliate with.<BR/>Small town Ojai and this valley will always hold a special place in my heart and as many civic groups can attest to, is worth preserving and protecting. PLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-89128335613650614152008-07-15T11:35:00.000-07:002008-07-15T11:35:00.000-07:00I have evidence that pixies live in my garden.I ha...I have evidence that pixies live in my garden.<BR/><BR/>I have evidence that an alien being named Xenu is trying to control my mind.<BR/><BR/>I have evidence that the Loch Ness monster is really a lost Nazi submarine.<BR/><BR/>I have evidence that WalMart plans to sell us pillows that have been stuffed with dead moths.<BR/><BR/>I have evidence that a certain brand of laxative will cure skin cancer.<BR/><BR/>I have evidence that someone stole my truck and replaced it with an exact duplicate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-4233998090763109912008-07-15T10:22:00.000-07:002008-07-15T10:22:00.000-07:00I have evidence of subterfuge and big business' co...I have evidence of subterfuge and big business' conspiracy theory to demolish Ojai.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-45406538856313874462008-07-14T13:10:00.000-07:002008-07-14T13:10:00.000-07:00Don't you live in Ventura, Pete?Don't you live in Ventura, Pete?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-60214959526271625442008-07-14T12:39:00.000-07:002008-07-14T12:39:00.000-07:00Not trying to get the last word here- just beg to...Not trying to get the last word here- just beg to differ to save Ojai from allowing these (lack of) Planning Commission projects like the Bryant Street Industrial Plan <BR/>from representing the worst in community development.The City is blinded by its ‘maximum build out theory’ of development.The Plan has no traffic mitigation or EIR except an increase of 300K car trips from Bryant Street. The decisions being made at the time by current Community Development<BR/>Department, Planning Commission and City Council were extremely detrimental to the City and the valley of Ojai, effecting<BR/>our quality of life, raise health and environmental issues, and continue to increase the amount of<BR/>traffic in the valley. All of these issues are being dismissed by the City or in some cases new ordinances are being written<BR/>to get around the legal issues which they present. It is important that we stand as a community to express our concerns about how our elected and<BR/>appointed officials are doing their job. It is about reminding our officials that the true sense of community development is about building an active and sustainable community based on mutual respect. Ojai is special to each one of us who live here. It is why we live here and it is our responsibility to preserve the unique character of the valley. PLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-20153797508910605182008-07-13T18:36:00.000-07:002008-07-13T18:36:00.000-07:00I'm not going to argue with you about the condo pr...I'm not going to argue with you about the condo projects, but the Bryant Street Industrial Park was created with build-out in mind. Build-out has always been the goal there. Build-out was, and is, desired on Bryant Street and Bryant Circle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-1994423760481386442008-07-13T14:24:00.000-07:002008-07-13T14:24:00.000-07:00That referenced the Bryant StreetIndustrial Park t...That referenced the Bryant Street<BR/>Industrial Park traffic, EIR, and<BR/>the many empty condo projects<BR/>as well- some garish,<BR/>some oversized, which are not being<BR/>sold. Should the economy pick up again anytime soon, new projects<BR/>need to be built to scale and<BR/>affordable, as required by state.PLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-84165572314146305312008-07-12T20:39:00.000-07:002008-07-12T20:39:00.000-07:00What big buildout, Pete? There are empty lots all ...What big buildout, Pete? There are empty lots all over Ojai, and some of them are on Ojai Avenue. I don't see the big buildout you're talking about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-65123527138051028732008-07-12T09:12:00.000-07:002008-07-12T09:12:00.000-07:00Ojai would do well to follow a building ordinance ...Ojai would do well to follow a building ordinance adopted by Santa Barbara limiting the size of remodels to a certain square footage preventing dimensions that block surrounding views and overshadow modest pre-existing structures.<BR/><BR/>The big buildout of Ojai deminishes charm and liveability and comes with side effects of unsustainable growth - crime, unhealthy air, traffic congestion and general threats to public safety and the quality of life. Oversized homes and commercial buildings subtract from the charm and diversity bringing tourist revenue to a small town that is not yet another suburb. The downtown arcade area is designed for pedestrians with a central plaza business district, not a gateway to decentralized commercial buildings producing traffic congestion.<BR/><BR/>Also as important is providing for the culture-youth, arts, music and creative pursuits, as well as acknowledging the many rich and varied spiritual communities we have for a town this size. It is good to see young people walking and relating to a small town they grew up in and still feel a part of.<BR/><BR/>I like small neighborhood encounters with safe streets for bicycles and walkers and kids and the occasional wayward dog wandering down what it believes is a quiet lane, not a busy thoroughfare. My vision of the quality of life here compliments but not resists a finite valley supporting healthy clean natural resources which have potential for benign clean energies and renewables - solar, wind, and bicycle and electric transportation.<BR/>I entered the last city council race for reasons somewhat a mystery - the job itself being a long and thankless task with few willing participants. I know now going through the elections process that the community has found it’s voice, or one that I never quite heard before here. I’ve seen the old guard of Ojai awaken, and I’ve seen the newer one sing harmony with not the same old song and dance, but a stirring melody of hope and promise that is every bit as rare and beautiful as this valley surrounded by mountains that filter the light of dawn and dusk. <BR/><BR/>That this place is like no other, that is the essential message and the only one that really matters. Yes it is threatened here, but no It is not too late to change that - it is neither a lost horizon nor a lost cause.<BR/><BR/>I won’t be singing the melody from a city council seat but will be humming it as I make the rounds on bicycle and on foot to friends I see walking still quiet streets, still healthy small neighborhoods with trees and views and and still open places with pure streams to see and visit. It is still good to live in this place, to know and value it, to be a part of it. To see and hear this song being sung brings feelings of joy and contentment of what remains in this quiet valley of peace. PLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-26965785917338910222008-07-12T05:36:00.000-07:002008-07-12T05:36:00.000-07:00Hanstad and Horgan are good people who are giving ...Hanstad and Horgan are good people who are giving Ojai the benefit of their commitment to civic duty. They don't deserve this kind of innuendo, as if they are up to some subterfuge. I thank them, and all their elected colleagues, for their service.<BR/><BR/>And, yea, let's see PL's "vision statement" yet again. I know it has something to do with an "occasional wayward dog."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-6138234162365663852008-07-11T20:28:00.000-07:002008-07-11T20:28:00.000-07:00Not really- why would you be protesting so much he...<I>Not really- why would you be protesting so much here about it?</I><BR/>Pete, I am the July 11, 2008 1:06 PM poster and posting for the first time on this thread, so your comment makes no sense.<BR/><BR/><I>Have it your way- for starters I suspected a stolen election in 2006</I><BR/>Pete, you have all these half-baked theories and no evidence. It would be easier to take you seriously if you backed up your UNSUBSTANTIATED accusations now and then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-4624103596813242232008-07-11T16:36:00.000-07:002008-07-11T16:36:00.000-07:00PL, Do you have a vision for Ojai? If so, could yo...PL, Do you have a vision for Ojai? If so, could you let us know what it is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-20281125513507184162008-07-11T14:13:00.000-07:002008-07-11T14:13:00.000-07:00Not really- why would you be protesting so much he...Not really- why would you be protesting so much here about it?<BR/>Have it your way- for starters I suspected a stolen election in 2006-a sinking feeling when it was relaid ballots were defective<BR/>and they were remarking them by hand. Weird DeJaVu from the<BR/>past Republican nationals. Also, it's locked at the county election division office and you have to watch hand recounts from a tiny window. Now about the Ojai dinasaurs, the 25 year envisioning project was supposed to lay the groundwork for a progressive civic agenda. At this point the council haven't even started with the state directed affordable housing plan. So it goes...PLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-65235691340050312802008-07-11T13:06:00.000-07:002008-07-11T13:06:00.000-07:00Pete, voters are aware of the truth. You have bee...Pete, voters are aware of the truth. You have been heard. Your ideas have been considered. Voters have made their choices, and you are not one of those choices.<BR/><BR/>You are also being mean and combative, without a good thing to say. Your constant whining about an unsubstantiated conflict, or "unfettered growth" that doesn't show up in population or school counts, just defines you as someone without credibility. Please consider this, before you reply or if you reply. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-52008210914599859882008-07-11T12:47:00.000-07:002008-07-11T12:47:00.000-07:00Bee, other detractors; I don't need to do your hom...Bee, other detractors; I don't need to do your homework for you but would be willing to revisit election issues I raise here if you wish. Most important to<BR/>me is that the truth in local politics prevails so that voters can make as informed choice as<BR/>is possible. However, let it<BR/>be known I have much better things to do than make unsubstantiated<BR/>allegations. The history<BR/>and patterns of city council<BR/>misrepresentation are quite real.PLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-50101240744277796182008-07-10T23:17:00.000-07:002008-07-10T23:17:00.000-07:00Pete...I'm not an aspiring Republican nor am I ano...Pete...<BR/><BR/>I'm not an aspiring Republican nor am I anonymous about anything that I do, I AM a Jeffersonian Republican. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Pete. <BR/><BR/>You can't even decide within this post what you are talking about. First its "unmanaged growth" then our local government is a "slow moving dinosaur". Someone could get whiplash trying to make sense of your position.<BR/><BR/>Being on a bank board doesn't make someone corrupt or in control of anything other than the bank. None of the "we aren't getting the Ojai WE want" complainers have yet to offer any proof of wrong doing by any member of Council. Sorry, utube and local blogs don't even begin to count as proof. They are just more opinions offered by the (mostly) anonymous.<BR/><BR/>It's your red, white and blue guaranteed right to disagree with what the members of Council stand for or to hate their politics, but you can't produce any proof that Ojai's elected officials are corrupt. <BR/><BR/>There have been missteps and mistakes to be certain. Show me any local government that has not suffered their share of errors. Local governments are staffed by humans after all with all the inherent flaws therein.<BR/><BR/>Those who find Ojai to be another LA or Santa Barbara need to spend more time outside Ojai. They would come home with fresh perspectives. This is a wonderful small town with nothing more than the usual small town troubles. If "business as usual" has created this, then what's the problem?<BR/><BR/>B DawsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-80495350540715853602008-07-10T16:42:00.000-07:002008-07-10T16:42:00.000-07:00I'm so glad I'm leaving Ojai. Business as usual I ...I'm so glad I'm leaving Ojai. Business as usual I see...<BR/>Welcome to Stepford,California.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-40712068634941506122008-07-10T15:28:00.000-07:002008-07-10T15:28:00.000-07:00(Yawn) Ojai Post, Guest Editorial: Jeff Furchtenic...(Yawn) Ojai Post, <BR/>Guest Editorial: Jeff Furchtenicht<BR/>OJAI’S “SUE FIRST” POLICY: UPDATE ON THE INITIATIVES LAWSUIT<BR/>CommentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-14323132840534969502008-07-10T14:45:00.000-07:002008-07-10T14:45:00.000-07:00COUNTY COMMERCE BANK BOARDRoger Myers, Esq.Myers, ...COUNTY COMMERCE BANK BOARD<BR/><BR/>Roger Myers, Esq.<BR/>Myers, Widders, Gibson,<BR/>Jones & Schneider<BR/>Attorneys at Law<BR/> <BR/>Jeffrey Becker<BR/>The Becker Group<BR/>President<BR/><BR/>Gary M. Horgan, Esq.<BR/>Horgan, Rosen, Beckham & Coren<BR/>Attorneys at LawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4039563145970308239.post-60438124474042469332008-07-10T14:33:00.000-07:002008-07-10T14:33:00.000-07:00ANYTHING could be all over the internet and youtub...ANYTHING could be all over the internet and youtube. You can even find some fascinating articles about the Great Lakes whale population! Just don't count on seeing those whales if you ever do travel to the Great Lakes. Cathy Elliot-Jones is terrific at promoting herself and her bizarre causes, but she is not one I would look to to get an accurate view of city politics. I am "liberal", but that does not mean that I am a blind sheep. An idiot is still an idiot, no matter the party or the "cause".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com