Tuesday, July 8, 2008

Police Investigate Fierro Drive Incident

Information sought on Monday's altercation

By Lenny Roberts

Ventura County Sheriff’s Department investigators are trying to determine what happened just before a 22-year-old Hispanic man was struck by a vehicle in the 1100 block of Fierro Drive Monday afternoon.
According to Ojai Police Chief Bruce Norris, some sort of altercation outside the single-family home between residents and a group of young males, who may have left the scene in a black Ford Explorer, preceded the incident.
The back window of the Explorer may have been smashed by a rock or hammer.
The victim was Mario Oseguera, 20, of Ojai. He was transported by ambulance to an awaiting helicopter at the landing zone at the former Sheriff’s Honor Farm on nearby Baldwin Road, and then to Ventura County Medical Center. He was reported to have a broken leg and head trauma.
A 1993 blue Chysler New Yorker at the scene showed evidence of significant front-end damage. The windshield was thoroughly caved in. Both sides of Fierro Drive were cordoned off, with a pool of blood visible in the street.
Daniel Charles Rockett, 19, of Ojai, was arrested at the scene on an unknown charge.
“This was a confrontation between two rival groups of males,” said Sheriff’s Capt. Bill Boyd on Wednesday. The Sheriff’s Department was unable to confirm by press time whether gang members were involved in the fight.
The incident, although turned over to the California Highway Patrol as a traffic incident, is under investigation by the Sheriff’s Department Major Crimes Unit.
The driver of the car was reported as Matthew de la Cruz, 18, also of Ojai, according to CHP officer Shawna Davidson.
Two ambulances responded to the scene of the fight. According to an eyewitness at the scene, the victim was unconscious and unresponsive.
Anyone with information on this event is urged to call the Sheriff’s Department at 646-1414.

105 comments:

Anonymous said...

The word is the driver was not the one driving when this happened. The other person was.

Anonymous said...

Both Rocket and De La Cruz are in M.O.B Miners Oaks gang, and should be arrested on charges of vehicular manslaughter and benefit of a street gang. Please do your job OPD.

Anonymous said...

Vehicular manslaughter? No one is dead...yet. But you are right about the rest.

Anonymous said...

An article in the Ventura County Star last year included Matthew DeLaCruz talking about his meth use. Would this arrest be enough to require drug testing and a thorough search of his house????? Danny Rocket has broken car windows before. Both of these guys need to be taken off of the streets for a VERY long time!

Anonymous said...

There are a number of related blogs under the story about the Oak View group who recently met and discussed the gang problems. Do not miss them

Anonymous said...

Read the article a little closer. The only arrest so far in this incident is that of Daniel Rockett for an "unknown charge." He was seen totally out of control, getting in the faces of the police and they finally cuffed him and put in in the back of one of the police cars. There was no mention of DeLaCruz being arrested.

Anonymous said...

The Ojai Police Department called in the California Highway patrol because they knew it was a problem between two rival gangs....and the OPD knew that the CHP would be more ignorant to what had happen in other word the OPD in covering up the fact that there was any type of gang involvement, and OPD knew they would have to add charges of attempt of vehicular manslaughter, criminal threats, and benefit of a street gang.

Anonymous said...

The blog above this one makes absolutely NO sense.

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Anonymous said...

The police are neither stupid nor oblivious to the problems in the neighborhood. They need to conduct a proper investigation in order to file the right charges and ensure a conviction based on the EVIDENCE in the case. A jury will not convict anyone based on a bunch of neighbors saying some bad stuff must have gone down.

Anonymous said...

It cannot be stressed enough that all citizens are innocent until proven guilty. I sense that too often in these comments people are anonymously making accusations and rushing to judgement. I would like to see this forum being used more constructively than just as an outlet for gasbags.

And so there's no confusion, the word "blog" refers to the collection of articles posted by the authors of this site, and the comments posted here shouldn't be referred to as "blogs" but as "comments."

Anonymous said...

innocent till proven guilty are you joking? Are you saying the Guy ran into the car and mashed the front end in? No on was driving the car?

Anonymous said...

i personally know athew myself and i know as a fact that he was driving the car, and did mean hit Mario with the car. i don';t think however he realized the consequences until after. But he has been arrested, and is in juvenile hall for violation of juvenile probation. I do agree that matt and rockett should be taken off the streets, because a lot of the gang problems revolve around these two boys...

Anonymous said...

i think that wat the press says isnt always right and you cant point fingers and say that only two people need to be takin off the street. i know from facts that osl gang had to do with this inccident and they have always been the main problem in meiners oaks, ojai and oak view and i dont think its right that only they should be put away the police havnt even tryed going and looking for the 4 other males involved in this incident so i think everybody should think about all the things and evdince that not just rocket and de la cruz have done something but that the osl gang have been causing alot of problems in this area

Anonymous said...

everyone who says they need to be takein off the streets for a long time you need to understand that there is a reason that they have done the things they have done and havnt osl caused more problmes in this town and they still roam the streets causing caos i think they all need to be takin off the streets the police say there trying but look what happened are they going to wait tell sumone gets serioucly killed from one of them getting a gun

Anonymous said...

If the last two posts are from friends of Rocket and De La Cruz, I am not sure that they are helping their buddies all that much. It is true that ANYONE engaged in destructive activities needs to be stopped, but that does not absolve these two young men. By the way, PRESUMED innocent until proven guilty is for the purposes of the court, it does not mean that all those accused of crimes are ACTUALLY innocent. If prior behavior is any indication, I think there is a good chance that these two ARE guilty. If we need to add to the sweep, fine.

Anonymous said...

Send 'em all to Iraq, and don't let them come back. Send their friends, defenders, and apologists, too. It'll be a better country when they're all gone and have no chance of returning.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a friend of the accused, and as far as I know everything being said about him is true, but regardless of this he should receive the due process afforded any of us. I'd also like to believe that any punishment would be corrective, because historically it's an incredible drain on society if it isn't. I also believe that the vigilantism attitudes being slung around here are rather unsavory for what I have observed as an enlightened community. I only suggested that there's a reason we're seeing a spike in gang activity, and that the answer isn't a bigger gulag. Our country and community is better and more proud than that -- and we should endeavor to correct our problems, not brush them under the rug.

Anonymous said...

anonymous 9:15PM:
spoken like sean hannity. this is why U.S. is sucking air...

Anonymous said...

I also believe that the vigilantism attitudes being slung around here are rather unsavory for what I have observed as an enlightened community.

The "enlightenment" you think you see in Ojai belongs to people who have never had their lives adversely affected by the criminals they like to defend and coddle at a very safe distance. The day that they or someone they care for become victims is the day that their opinions, their beliefs, and their actions will change.

I lived and worked for decades in areas with much worse gang problems, and in areas where gunfire was heard not only every night but in the daytime as well. We weren't surrounded by kids who had recently gone astray, we were surrounded by gangsters who had grown up in the gang culture, and whose parents and grandparents had also grown up in the gang culture. Some of them were as smart as anyone you've ever met in your life, and they ate at least one or two well-meaning do-gooders for breakfast every week after playing with them the way a cat plays with its prey. The local cops weren't doing much more than trying to get the gangs to kill each other off by starting rumors about how gang A had dissed gang B. My last place of residence before moving to Ojai was a neighborhood where cops often ran red lights and stop signs whenever possible because they didn't want to be sitting ducks at a traffic stop, especially at night. Most of the cops there really didn't care what the gangs did to non-cops because as far as they were concerned we were the ones who kept knocking them back and tying their hands every time they tried to deal with the problem. Things had gotten to the point where the cops mostly only responded to direct confrontation and attacks on their families and extended families. The rest of the time they just came by and took reports after the fact. They took reports, and the problems continued. Why? Because, generally, we didn't support them and they knew it and they weren't going to risk dying for people who never, ever, had their backs.

You want to know how things got to be as bad as they were there? People used to figure that the gangs weren't a problem because they were only mostly killing each other, and because every time a gang member assaulted or killed a non-gang member some fuzzy-headed apologist would wind up getting a page-and-a-half in the L.A. Times explaining how it was all the fault of the gangsters' socioeconomic surroundings, and therefore the fault of everyone who was better off than the gangsters. And, all of the guilt-ridden liberals and "enlightened" people bought all of this and subsequently made yet more laws that made it even harder for the cops to stop gangs and crime in general.

That's where we're headed here. You don't want to believe it, but there are plenty of people here who know that it's true. Some of you want to live with your head in the sand or perhaps fantasize about how maybe an after-school arts & crafts program would be just the thing to bring these kids back from the dark side. Dream on.

In reality, what you're seeing today is just one of the steps along the way to Ojai becoming Huntington Park or Lincoln Heights or Alhambra or Inglewood or Compton or any number of other places where people used to live in relative peace. If you want to refer to people who don't want to be cringing in fear in what used to be nice neighborhoods as vigilantes, so be it, but your definition is incorrect. Some of us know better than to believe what you're saying because we've met your kind before, (and some of us used to be your kind) and we don't care what you think because you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and there's a good chance that you won't know anything at all until someone you care for is lying on the street in a pool of blood, or one of your children gets killed in a drive-by while he or she is sitting on the couch watching TV.

You know it happens. Do you want it to happen here? What will you say when it does? There's nothing you can say, and nothing you can do that will do any good after someone you love has died for no other apparent reason than to demonstrate just how horribly wrong and insane things have become.

Anonymous said...

The above should be a guest editorial in the OV News

Anonymous said...

They call themselves gang members here in Ojai. It is a joke they are not a gang but gang want a bees. Losers with no jobs who are friends and hang out together as they have no direction in there lives. They are board with themselves so they smoke, drank and do drugs while the rest of us are working.

Anonymous said...

if OPD could break down OSL they would get ride of the majority of gang problems in the valley. OSL is the instigator in most of these gang VS gang crimes.

Anonymous said...

"Losers with no jobs who are friends and hang out together as they have no direction in there (sic) lives."

Isn't that what a gang is? Um, yeah, they are a gang.

Anonymous said...

Just do your job because Matt struck the man purposly period.

Anonymous said...

see this is why all these comments are making me mad because the press only gets half the story not all because if they did have the hole story no one would be commenting wondering what happened de la cruz got chased from mc donalds to the rockets house they ran out (osl)of the car bashed in the rockets house window also popped a tire rocket ran out bashed there window de la cruz was trying to get away from (osl) and one of the osl boys got in the middle of the street de la cruz swerved from the car doors of the other car and one of the osl boys accidently got hit. so dont go pointing fingers and saying that only rocket and de la cruz where the one's starting this because they didnt and its ridiculous how people just dont want to look at the problem at hand we do have a gang problem and yes it's not as bad as compton but this is a small community and we all need to do are job and help out from stoping this happen because inncent people are getting hurt i know from experiance that this osl problem we have needs to get handled and there IS NO M.O.B they just live in meniers oaks and there not going to get charged with vehicular manslaughter because it was an accident so everyone needs to look at the big picture and stop pointing fingers and look at everything (osl) has done to this community

Anonymous said...

People, don't the Hell's Angels have a chapter on the Avenue in Ventura -- just a stone's throw away? Haven't they been here for decades now? This whole "gang" thing seems way blown out of proportion to me. Have any of you ever been to Compton or Inglewood? Trust me, we don't have a gang problem here. We just have some unruly kids who don't know how to drive.

Anonymous said...

If there is no MOB, why is there MOB graffiti all over, and why is that those in the non-existent MOB gang are the most vocal about the OS?. From the grammar and spelling, members of the MOB and OSL could stand to spend a few more hours in the classroom. Perhaps then they could fill out a job application and solve their own problem.

Drugs, as well as gangs, is a serious problem in Ojai. It sounds as if drugs played some role in the initial altercation, if only in bringing these deadbeats together. We need to do a better job as a community in keeping drugs out of our kids and out of our community. Parents that look the other way, or, even worse, supply drugs and alcohol need to think very hard about what they are doing. Neighbors need to get as nosey as they were 30 years ago. I couldn't do anything in the valley without my parents hearing about it. I am sure the parents of many of these kids would actually appreciate hearing what their kids are up to, and, if not, maybe they will get so tired of hearing it that they will take action as parents.

Anonymous said...

this all has to do when danny rocket got hit on the head with a bat or something and thinks it was them that did it.so he getting them back by using the car as a weapon.the victim was jus heading to his friends house.there was no cars then all of a sudden a car comes by fast and hits him.some say it was an accident i deffinently know it was no accident.if anything, the victim should press charges because he did nothing to diserve what he got

Anonymous said...

If theres no MOB theres no OSL they just live in ojai.

Anonymous said...

"the victim was just heading to his friends house." Realy is it a standard thing to mash in someones windows on the way to a friends house? That street is a a dead end why was he on it to begin with. If he does not live on it. Then how was he just heading to a friends? Sounds like your story is full of holes already. Why dont you grow up and start making a better place in the world by getting a job and helping people who are less fortunate.

Anonymous said...

i honestly dont think that anyone should judge a book by its cover.. If it was an osl gang member who hit someone they would be taken in right away.But since it was a white boy they the police officers dont think anything of it.How do you know that the white boys didnt start it. exactly knows. i think that de la cruz needs to pay for all the damage he put oseguera throught regardless if was an accident or not! does he even have his licence? And who ever said that Osl dont have jobs and all they do is drink and smoke how the hell do you know.. do you live there lifes do you know what they do all day long or are you just juding them because there are mexican. And i would have to say that osl isnt that bad, ya they do cause problems in the little town but no ones that fact if they start it or not no town would be complete without a gang..

Anonymous said...

this is stupid everyone thinks what they herd is true its stupid you have no idea how hard it is to live with all this BS going on they followed de la cruz do you get that followed him they wernt going to a friends house were every you herd that its lame and the MOB stuff it hasnt been around in a long time so get over it osl is still here and yes i know how osl is all they do is party and cause dumb stuff yea maybe they have a job or whatever but there not going on with there lives and where not being racial in here the cops try to there best but its all about the evidence and there not letting the white kids go they all ways get arrest osl never does because they never get caugh okay and who walks the streets everyday and just stands in random places osl they have graffited more then anything i think everyone needs to stop blaming people and get over it its in the past now look in to the future to make things better and this stuff wont happen maybe all parents need to watch out for there kids so they dont go down the wrong road

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Anonymous said...

It seems to me that a lot of people on this site need to go back to school and learn to spell. I can't believe that the OVN is letting this type of talk the (B and F words). Someone needs to learn some manners. GANGS OR NOT THIS IS OUT OF HAND. WHEN YOU POINT A FINGER - ONE IS POINTING RIGHT BACK AT YOU, OR IS THAT YOUR GUNS?????

Anonymous said...

to all blogers:whos house did the osl go over to and start throwing rocks through the window danny and matt are no angels but they where at there own homes maybe thats where osl members should of been

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Anonymous said...

Why do you have to hang out in the street? Do you not have a home to hang out at? Can you not afford to hang out at a club? most people who are normal with jobs have hobbies and would never think of hanging out in the streets.

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Anonymous said...

let everyone live there lifes an mind you own, no one is living yours,to the anonymous above that cant afford another hobbie,oviously you cant your comentating to these other coments dont you have a hobbie that is normal.

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Anonymous said...

Sean Hannity is sounding better and better all the time.

Anonymous said...

What has me totally confused it that I thought the Rocket(s?) were 'white supremacists' - and if so, is De la Cruz part of their 'MOB or whatever' gang? How can a guy with a hispanic last name be in a white supremacist group?

Anonymous said...

Well then, I hope you kids get back into school . You really need to improve your grammar if you are ever are going to get a high paying job that does not include peddling meth to others. And please stop making this a racist thing it is not. It is about your behavior. Not your color. Maybe if you could get past the reverse racism you could clear the way for good things in your life.

Anonymous said...

Instead of worrying about how this valley is controlled by you. You need to wake up and realise how petty this is compared to what our government is doing to this country. Black,Brown,White,yellow we are all in for grief if The New World order gets there way. They are the biggest Gang out there. www.infowars.com Get informed

Anonymous said...

to the person six comments up how about you live a normal life and relize your so called gang banging isnt gana help you trew life so maybe you should get a life im sick of people saying dumb crap it's ridiculoluse get a life and no ones taking over anything how many are there of you like 20 wow look at the avenue and colonia get a life man you are never going to be as big as them and a friend wouldnt leave there friend bleeding on the street like osl did

Anonymous said...

just beacuse the rockets are white doesnt mean there white power cuz there not and nether is de la cruz get over it

Anonymous said...

how about removing 4:59 and 6:21?

Anonymous said...

It's really exhausting trying to extrapolate the grammar from these massive run-on comments. Hasn't anyone ever learned how to use a period or a comma? It's really easy. Also, what does OSL stand for?

Anonymous said...

Old School Latinos

Learn to Write said...

Grammar lesson #1:

there: as in location, "Look over there!"

they're: contraction for they are, "They're going to school."

their: possessive, "Their car won't start."

Lenny Roberts said...

9:28A, comments removed, thank you.

Anonymous said...

Here's an honest question:

Would a stint in the military, a tour in Iraq, be good to teach these youths discipline, or would such a punishment be an insult to the men and women voluntarily serving our country.

Thoughtful responses only, please.

Anonymous said...

break my windows i will throw bullets

Anonymous said...

wtf

Anonymous said...

punks breaking windows bloody bumper cars flying rocks teaser time what ever happened to a good old street fight???? don't want to mess up those pretty shoes huh?

Anonymous said...

10 on 1 is not what i mean

Anonymous said...

down with nwo take the borders back

Anonymous said...

I think the County of Ventura should bill the Fierro Drive family for all of the time the police have spent at their place. Maybe hitting these low lifes where it counts would force them to be accountable for what their kids are up to. Better yet, put the whole bunch of them to work filling potholes with hot asphalt in the 100 degree heat. Get them all so freakin tired like the rest of us working folk that they do not have the energy to start crap. You do not have to spell to make a shovel work. Sitting in an air conditioned cell having meals handed to you not enough punishment in my book.

Anonymous said...

remove
july 10, 2008 11:10 PM

Anonymous said...

The police should be able to shoot suspected gang members on site.

Anonymous said...

To july 10, 11:10pm
First of all Im not a gang member, Second of all you cant judge anyone, just becouse there not like you probably wealthy,or wear dont meet with your expectations to be youre kind of normal, if we were all the same there would be no controversy, no one to vote for, no alternatives,and if that would be the reason it would be boring we would be just exactly like you. By the way we woun't be bloging at the time. Dont try to change every one,better your self you seem unsatisfied with yourself.

Anonymous said...

Second of all you cant judge anyone

Another bumper-sticker platitude, meaning less than nothing and provably wrong. We all make judgments, all the time.

We are judging behavior, in this case. When young men act aggressively, act out violently, lie about it, challenge police who are simply trying to find out the facts, drink and drug every day to the point where the whole neighborhood knows it, then this is behavior that doesn't make a good citizen or neighbor. It is dangerous to be around people like this. Most people just mind their own business, and never get a second look. These punks seek out attention for their behavior, and then cry about it when they are "judged" to be criminally inclined.

Anonymous said...

To the person who wants 7/10, 11:10 pm removed...WHY? Nothing so awful about it except maybe the part about osl leaving their homie lying in the street looking like he was dead struck a nerve. For more than one reason I am glad they are not my brothers.

Anonymous said...

Reading all the comments its clear there is a lot of frustration, and a lot of misinformation and strong if uninformed opinions. This was the result of a confrontation. There are no "imnocent" parties here; the "victim" wasn't walking to a friends house; the window glass of the vehicle he came in was on the street near where the victim's "friends" left him. Nobody's favoring the white boys or the osl. The Sheriffs know what happened. Let them do their work.

Anonymous said...

If anyone knows of or is a Laywer, you should contact this Mario kid who got hit by the car and convince him to file a civil lawsuit. One aginst the Insurance company, two against the driver, and three against the owner of the vehicle if it proves not to be owned by the driver. This Kid has the potential of walking away with alot of MONEY as well as his attorney. Suing is the American Way!!!

Anonymous said...

Is this CEJ, ESQ, or Jeff Furchtenecht?:-)

Anonymous said...

The comment about letting the Sheriff's do their work is a joke. Maybe if they had done some better work after some of the previous confrontations at this location things would not have escalated to the point where there was blood on the road.

And to the ambulance chaser who thinks the Mario kid should sue everone in sight should put a bit more thought into the thought. It is obvious these people are not rolling in the bucks. We would not be surprised if the car involved in uninsured.

Anonymous said...

We were anxious to see a follow-up story in the Friday issue of the OVN. Any arrests? Condition of the man who was run over. This seems to happen alot. Big story and then you never hear anymore about it. What ever happened to that movie guy who killed his friend in the car accident months ago?

Anonymous said...

this is BS 20+ years ago i got citations all the time loitering more than 3 in a group was a gang50.00x3 citation curfew citations at 9:15pm75.00x4 riding against traffic 55.00x2not getting off my bike to cross the street 40.00x4 no bike light at 6:00pm in summer time 100.00x2 cutting across traffic {not curb to curb}30.00x3 riding on the side walk 150.00x2 and my favorite one unsafe speed on a bicycle 32mph i started laughing at the cop i really did not think he was going to ticket me 120.00x1 all in just 3 1/2 years 1430.00 in fines still have those yellows i payed all with the cash i made getting those tickets {to and from work and school}not drug dealing or any thing illegal in my case guilty till proven innocent but the one i never got was a helmet ticket they just passed that law after i turned 18. so none of those laws are applied now ??????? standing on the street corner 15+ in the street in most cases and blocking stores i have no problem with day labors but i have no use for them,and every county files a gang injunction when all laws necessary are in place but not enforced and adding new ones will fix this ???BS

Anonymous said...

sorry to July 11 11:49am it is not old school latinos its o----- serrinos locos{osl}sur13 tag that is all over ojai,oak view,m.o.danny is justified to attack and defend his street it was the street he lived on right. that's not all i think 2-3 cars of his have been more than just vandalised tooth past and toilet paper are vandalism slashing tires and breaking windows is chichens@#$ and attacking someones house no respect or accountability a 1 on 1 confrontation is 1 way to solve this but it is a little bit to fair for osl style if 6+ members of skins smashed a car and house and well a kid.Hate crime in ojai would have been the headlines but six against 1-2 at there house maybe they wanted to talk right the peaceful group called osl would never out number someone and intend inflict great bodily harm it just really takes half a dozen to equal 1 man not my opinion there action says that clearly danny should have stayed out of it but it is inevitable. if they were not at his house that incident would have been avoided that is what makes there action wrong not background not race or gang affiliation or a judgement call those are facts

Anonymous said...

Reading the posts in this thread has convinced me of at least one thing: I am not voting for the parcel tax. My tax money has apparently been wasted for years in a public school system that has produced knuckleheads who can't think or write.

Anonymous said...

You don't honestly think that these kids were in class do you?!? They were more likely the kids that were loitering around town, getting high or drunk, or tagging, instead of learning something useful. Our tax dollars are STILL supporting them - in jail now!

Anonymous said...

Two wrongs to do not make a right. One cannot take the law into one's own hand. The Rocket or De La Cruz, who ever was drivings, commited a crime regardless of what events led up to it. They crossed the line when they decided to get into the car and pursue, the law only allows one to defend with neccessary force, Not to become the aggressor. In short all those involved who commited a crime should be charged. It does society no good to prosecute one side but not the other when both sides have commited a crime.

Anonymous said...

Our schools are doing a fine job of dumbing down the public. This is the result. I cant wait until the Sat's get dropped from the system. You have not seen dumb yet.

Anonymous said...

To the person who wrote:
"I am not voting for the parcel tax. My tax money has apparently been wasted for years in a public school system that has produced knuckleheads who can't think or write."

Now that you've told us what you don't want...I'd like to hear your proposal for a better way you and the rest of us could spend our money to better serve the youth and the future of this community?

Anonymous said...

well cops always show great restraint when it comes to life/death situations 6-1 they could accidentally kill someone jumping them. Danny has been threatened his life his aunts life and who do you think you are judging people on of all things their spelling skills when all of you "smart people" screw it all up like you guys are already doing [running the country into the ground] us dumb folk will be the ones to clean it up so go ahead keep looking down at us. Its like 4th grade in here the real issue is at hand and all you can do is get off topic and at all cost don't fix the problem. Are you going into politics you would make a great liar i mean politician!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

well your opinion WILL change when it is your windows or your car and i am pretty sure you wont care about grammar and spelling. Someone came very close to losing their life a kid who may not care about the pain and agony of his parents losing a child in a meaningless battle over meiners oaks tuff wtf no one asked if he is OK not on this post but if any one knows could you post thanx.

Anonymous said...

Now that you've told us what you don't want...I'd like to hear your proposal for a better way you and the rest of us could spend our money to better serve the youth and the future of this community?

July 14, 2008 12:15 PM


You're not getting it. I don't have to tell you anything; I'm not the one that wants money from you. You want money from me. The school lobby is asking citizens for yet more money. The school lobby is the one that has to come up with an idea, and prove that more money will equal an improved educational experience.

The posts from the punks and their homies on the thread are proof that they are not being taught critical thinking, or communication skills.

Anonymous said...

your critical thought and communication is such a benefit to humanity why are you wasting your time on a little blog like this run for president now !!!!

Anonymous said...

your critical thought and communication is such a benefit to humanity why are you wasting your time on a little blog like this run for president now !!!!

Sarcasm is not a substitute for reason, or wit. Just a way to change the subject, when you've lost on the issue.

Anonymous said...

So how anyone been arrested or charged with a crime?

Anonymous said...

This is all old news now. Who cares anymore.

Anonymous said...

You must care, or you would not be looking at this blog!

Anonymous said...

well i like to think of it as a difference of opinion but if it makes you feel better than me go ahead. infowars.com look for your self down with north American union nwo

Anonymous said...

reason and accountability went out the window a very long time ago

Anonymous said...

Matt is still being sought by the police.

MZM3 said...

I don't care what the community thinks, buti hope everyone has in mind that there is two families suffering over this. No one should go through this ever, I wish the driver would had been thinking straight when he decided to hit a HUMAN BEING. Accident or not the deed was done and is affecting many.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if the kid who got hit is still alive?

Anonymous said...

HELLLOOO Ojai Vally News........can we pleas have a update on this storey?

Anonymous said...

Speaking of follow-up, whatever happened to Jeff Furchtenect's SLAPP suit against the City of Ojai? According to the OVN article back in May, it was set for the State Court of Appeal, Second Appellant District, oral argument on July 11.

Lenny Roberts said...

Sheriff's investigators have not released any new information as of an today. The investigation is ongoing, and we will report on further developments as they are released.

Nao Braverman said...

To answer the question about the lawsuit involving Jeff Furchtenicht and the City of Ojai, an oral argument was held on July 9. The judge will make a determination in 30 to 60 days from that date. Look forward to an update in a month or two.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Lenny and Nao.

Anonymous said...

in my humble opinion, anyone who makes the left turn onto Tico Rd off the 33 should be pulled over and searched, then they should be made to recite the alphabet. when they fail to do so, they should be locked up for life and sterilised for being so stupid!
i've never seen a good driver take that left turn! just a bunch of arrogant, punk-a@#, overpriveleged kids on meth!

Anonymous said...

If YOU were smart you'd figure out how to spell sterilised correctly.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard how the quy who got hit is doing? Have they arrested the driver yet or was this an accident?

Lenny Roberts said...

Arrests were made 7/30 with more expected. Information will be posted here 7/30. Mario Oseguera is "recovering well from his injuries," according to a source.

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Anonymous said...

The comment made on 7/28 at 6:28 pm is actually more idiotic than the very first one in this very entertaining thread! The old saying "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt" certainly applies to these writers.

Lenny Roberts said...

Anon 8:17. Thanks. The correct date of arrests was 7/25. Information regarding those arrests should be made available today, and we will pass it on.

civilian said...

i've lived here for all my life and when ever i read something in the papers thats gang related it has something to do with (osl).i think the cops need to start paying more attention to those gang bangers!

Anonymous said...

i think that osl needs to go to prison see what it is really like they hit little girls pepople in la would kill you for less and there all almost out of jail wow that was only a couple months there just gana come back and do the same sh**

Anonymous said...

MATTHEW DE LA CRUZ NEVER MET HIM BEFORE IN MY LIFE. YET HAS HARMED WHAT IS MOST PRECIOUS TO ME. WHY I ASK WOULD A POLICE OFFICER BELIEVE A FELON SUCH AS HIMSELF. WHEN YOU ACCUSE SOMEONE OF WHAT THEY DID NOT DO, IT IS WRON! NOT GUILTY TIL PROVEN GUILTY OKAY. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A PAST ITS HARD TO BELIEVE YOUVE CHANGED. BUT WHAT IS MOST PRECIOUS TO ME HAS CHANGED AND HAS BEEN WRONGFULLY ACCUSED OF SOMETHING HE DID NOT DO. IF MATTHEW DE LA CRUZ HAD BEEN LOCKED UP THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS DONT MESS WITH THOSE WHOM YOU DONT KNOW. I AM THE PERSON THAT ONCE BELIEVED IN LAW. BELIEVED THAT OFFICERS ARE HEAR TO PROTECT BUT WHEN YOU AN INJUSTICE OCCUR YOU THINK DIFFERENT. I CANNOT IMAGINE THIS HAPPENING TO ANYONE NOR WISH TO.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL EVEN THOSE WHO HAVE CAUSED ME SO MUCH PAIN AND RIGHT NOW IN THIS INSTANT ANGER.............

Anonymous said...

WE ALL HAVE ENEMIES.. AND ITS NOT A BAD THING. IT JUST MEANS YOUVE STOOD UP FOR SOMETHING.